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Episode 14 | Safety and... Purpose with Cody Schwing by LAPCO FR

Safety And... Purpose: Lauren talks with Cody Schwing, owner and founder of Absolute Safety & Moments that Matter. Listen as they discuss Lessons in Business and Life, Bringing Workers of Today and Tomorrow Home Safely, The Importance of Finding Your Why, and play a game: Finding Modern Meaning in Purpose Quotes of the Past.




This podcast is sponsored by LAPCO Manufacturing. LAPCO: premium workwear since 1989.




0:00:28.5 Lauren Brizendine: Hello, listeners, welcome to Safety And... A laughing and learning podcast where we talk about safety and whatever else is on your mind. And today, what's on our mind is safety and purpose. And I am with Cody Schwing, who is the owner and founder of Absolute Safety. Welcome to our show today.


0:00:50.0 Cody Schwing: Thanks for having me.


0:00:51.1 LB: Yeah, so this is gonna be kind of a deep one. I mean, purpose, that's pretty deep, so I cannot wait to see where the show goes today. But to get us started, tell us a little bit more about Absolute Safety, your role, kind of what got you there. Yeah, tell our listeners about your story.


0:01:12.9 CS: Okay, yeah. So, thanks for having me again.


0:01:15.8 LB: Yeah.


0:01:16.5 CS: So Absolute Safety was started in July 2014. I come from a family that, food on the table was from oil/gas industry. My dad, who was one of the other owners of the company with me, he worked in the Gulf of Mexico most of our lives, me and my brothers and sister, and it just kinda... Seeing him, hearing stories of him losing close friends due to safety not being followed to protocol, and it just kinda transitioned into... Once I finished school, I had a son at a very young age. And I went the route with nursing school.


0:02:00.1 LB: Okay.


0:02:00.1 CS: I actually graduated nursing school. The day after I graduated [chuckle] I went to work offshore as a roustabout.


0:02:06.2 LB: Okay.


0:02:07.0 CS: And once I got... I'm a people person, I love being around, I don't like being confined to a platform.


0:02:13.6 LB: Right.


0:02:14.1 CS: So, I started applying for jobs in different sales positions, and I just kept circling back with safety companies.


0:02:18.9 LB: Okay.


0:02:20.8 CS: So, started with a couple of different competitors down in the Homer area, and...


0:02:25.9 LB: I know a little bit about Homer.


0:02:27.6 CS: Yeah, I know...


0:02:28.2 LB: Shout-out to Homer.


0:02:29.1 CS: Yeah, you do. I would drive there five days a week, and I had a pretty large territory, and just really learned to love learning the safety side of things, and then after some time talking with my dad, Jimmy, we just... Oh, I remember we were sitting at their... Lunch at their dinner table at their house, and he was looking forward to retirement over the next couple few years or whatever, and I looked at him, I said, "Look, we can do this. We can make a difference. You've got the experience, I've got some experience, I like talking to people, let's get this thing out there and see... " So July 2014, I think it was July 30th, LLC-ed up and just the ball never stopped rolling from there, making a difference.


0:03:15.9 LB: Yeah. So, how does Absolute Safety make a difference, specifically? What type of services do you offer? And I know you mentioned oil and gas. What type of industries do you guys work with?


0:03:27.3 CS: I'm glad you asked. We really, really do pride ourselves on this. Some people are, "That's kind of far-fetched. You don't serve all those industries." Like, "Yeah, we do." We're overseeing the Four Seasons construction for a safety aspect of it in New Orleans, so, that's hospitality. We do roadwork here and there, industrial plants, refineries, we work with a lot of the major construction companies across the country, and we still obviously do oil and gas. We do coast guard training. So, any industry, besides some restaurants. We don't do food inspections. We're not a FDA... Yeah, so.


0:04:08.2 LB: Well, I know I read that your mission was to keep workers coming home safe, and I think that really resonated with us at LAPCO, because that's part of what we do too. Whether you're in hospitality, or whatever industry it is, at the end of the day, you just want people to get home safely. So, I have to ask you, because you are a young business owner, and we do have some young listeners, we're actually at a school right now, so we are at...


0:04:39.4 CS: River Parishes Community College.


0:04:41.2 LB: Yeah. So, I wanna ask you about your biggest failure, and what you learned from it, right? So, I can imagine having, like I said, your own company, being very young, you've probably learned some things from being in safety, where... I just...


0:05:00.1 CS: Yeah.


0:05:00.4 LB: I'm starting to dig pretty early guys, so if you're listening, I'm getting deep kinda early, but tell us more about that.


0:05:08.0 CS: So, failures. I mean, where do you begin? It was a learning curve. Look, I didn't go to school for business.


0:05:17.3 LB: Right.


0:05:18.3 CS: I didn't. Learned a lot of these things firsthand, but I guess probably two of the main things I've learned is... [chuckle] Six months in the start of the business, I over-promised to a plant, my eyes were big, I was ready to go, hit the ground running. I won't say the plant's name. It's pretty local to Gonzales, Louisiana. And I over-promised, but I had a good relationship with the turnaround managers and plant managers, and the next day they called me and said, "Cody, look, we don't wanna see you sink before you swim."


0:05:49.8 LB: Right.


0:05:50.4 CS: "You can't do this."


0:05:50.8 LB: Yeah.


0:05:50.9 CS: And I said, "Look, man, I really appreciate you all calling and telling me that, because I didn't sleep a lick last night because I was dreading having to call you and fess up to that. Look, I can sell it, I can do it." So, we learned... That was in the first six months. So, I learned from there, don't overpromise.


0:06:07.6 LB: Yes.


0:06:08.7 CS: If you don't know, ask somebody. Google is a wonderful thing.


0:06:13.0 LB: Yes, we say that all the time. I appreciate and I love that you said yes, because I think there is something to always saying yes, like, "Of course I can do it. Of course, I can do it," But yeah, also kind of knowing your limitations too, I think is really important.


0:06:27.9 CS: Yeah, that's definitely. You gotta know your limitations. And it took us... We're in our seventh year, going on our eighth, and it's just... You gotta learn your niche, we've learned our niche, and how do we drive that getting home people home safely. We're not really in the equipment rental business, which we do partner with other per se, competitors, but whatever we can do to complete the package to make sure your workers, our workers, everybody goes home safely.


0:06:56.5 LB: Yes, most definitely. Well, tell us something maybe you wish you might have known before you started working in this industry? Because I think it's interesting that you have a nursing background, so I'm sure you wish you would have known a lot of things. But maybe what's a little nugget of advice that you wish you would've known prior to getting in this business?


0:07:22.4 CS: There's a lot I wish I would've known. I wish I would've known how to meet with the bank, [chuckle] breaking down spreadsheets with financials and projections. But I think probably one of the main things I wish I would've been... And I've learned to get this way, is making sure I'm personable with our customers, with the people I run across in the industry. And because I am a personable person, but I just thought I needed to be, strictly business, strictly business.


0:07:51.0 LB: Right.


0:07:51.5 CS: And when you can get on the rapport with somebody and learn about his family, figure out his why. You figure out somebody else's why, you can... I get emotional, I do.


0:08:02.5 LB: Yes. No, I love emotion.


0:08:05.2 CS: I get very emotional about it because it means a lot to me. Like I said, I had a son at 17 years old. People that knew me got to know me, and my son made my heart that much bigger. So, if you wanna get to me, you know, me... And yeah, I'm young. You just... Ask me about my weekend going to the baseball field. That's...


0:08:31.3 LB: Yeah.


0:08:31.7 CS: Like I've said, I've done lunch and learns, and I've gotten... I've gotten emotional like this because, you know, we're... Our business is around the family.


0:08:42.1 LB: Definitely.


0:08:42.5 CS: We got my sister involved, my dad, my brothers, they all do a little bit, and that's just... We don't lose focus of that.


0:08:50.6 LB: Yeah.


0:08:51.5 CS: And so that's what I would... The advice to... Don't hold back.


0:08:55.1 LB: Yeah.


0:08:55.6 CS: Go to those meetings. Don't go in there with a script. Get to know your people you're talking to.


0:08:58.6 LB: Well, and the importance of relationship building. Especially... I say I recently moved back, but I spent some time in Texas, recently moved back here. And like you said, getting to really know people on a personal level, I think it makes business seem very effortless. And like you said, whether someone's asking about that baseball game or whether someone goes to that baseball game and see... There's something about really connecting with people on a deep level, for sure.


0:09:34.7 CS: And I'll touch on this. When you go through nursing school and you get all those student loans, and now I'm 10, 12 years out of nursing school, I'm always trying to justify all that money I spent and didn't use it.


0:09:47.1 LB: Yeah.


0:09:47.6 CS: And I think one of the main things I did learn in the hospital setting, and particularly like the geriatric side of it, in getting to know your patients, and I would go on the weekends and just go visit miss so-and-so, just because you didn't see any family showing up.


0:10:05.9 LB: Yeah.


0:10:06.0 CS: So that is something I justify all the money I spent on nursing school. I was able to bring that into this business and just... Yeah, getting personable.


0:10:13.5 LB: Well, I'm gonna ask a little bit about that. You have to kind of like... If you're going to nursing school, I have to finish nursing school, I have to follow this career path. But what would you say to those who kind of feel maybe it is their purpose to stray away from it? Like, 'cause I know you kind of rationalize these things, right?


0:10:33.6 CS: Yeah.


0:10:34.1 LB: "I spent all this money. What are my parents gonna say?" So, what's a little bit of advice you could give for someone who... When you realize your purpose starts kind of transitioning from what you thought it was gonna be, how do you really go for it, like you said?


0:10:52.2 CS: Yeah. It was probably about halfway through nursing school when I realized I love taking care of people, but I don't... Like you said, "What are my parents gonna say? What are my friends gonna say?" Are you gonna be labeled as a failure because you didn't complete it?


0:11:08.5 LB: Yeah.


0:11:08.9 CS: I'm not saying, if anybody's listening to... You're assess semester away from graduating engineering, just finish it. But you gotta do what you love or you're gonna grow old and miserable.


0:11:25.8 LB: Yeah.


0:11:25.9 CS: So, you got... A lot of self-reflection. That's what I did.


0:11:29.7 LB: Do you journal? 'Cause I journal. I'm gonna say, I journal. I'm a journaler.


0:11:35.4 CS: If anybody went through my notes on my phone, you'd have a whole different outlook on me because it's just anything that comes to my mind. Look, I drive all the time. I've got 115,000 miles on my truck in the past three years. Majority of the time... And my wife kills me all the time, 'cause we get in the car and the radio is off, I just sit in silence and just reflect and just jotting stuff, talking to my phone and, "Hey Siri, remind me to... " Yeah, so... I'll journal in a good way...


0:12:02.5 LB: It's probably not as odd as you think. I would say the same for creatives, business owners, there is something about that quiet time that really lets the influx of ideas come in for sure.


0:12:15.2 CS: That's... Yeah, a 100%. So yeah, but with that, find your purpose. Find your purpose, whatever you gotta do, and stick to your roots. What are you are good at? Know yourself and what you're good at. I'm not trying to... Look, I'm not a marketing major. That's not my strong suit. I got people... My sister, she's one of 'em, they are marketing experts.


0:12:37.7 LB: Shout-out to your sister.


0:12:39.0 CS: Shout-out to my sister. And my brother owns a marketing firm as well. That's what they do. So, rely on other people for those things. Stick to what you're good at. I like to go see people, I don't like being in a cubicle, but some people might like that. So just...


0:12:52.9 LB: Well, I once had someone tell me, he said, "You know when you're hiring people, it's easy to wanna hire people who are just like you, but it's good to hire people who are very different than you, who are like," you said, "skilled in other things," and what their purpose is, where their talents are. We were talking earlier, speaking of your sister, we were talking with her as well, you guys are doing a campaign called Moments that Matter. And that really ties into what we're talking about with safety and purpose. Tell us a little bit more about that campaign, and how it came to be and what you plan to achieve with that.


0:13:35.8 CS: Yeah. And it's probably been years and years in the making, but it just took, like you said, getting other people around me and in our company to come up with ideas and bringing in the marketing guys to come up with... We wanna make a difference. But anybody can say that. So, why are you making a difference? How are we gonna relate with the people? Look, we are a staffing company somewhat, safety techs, so we've got to try to figure out these people, but how do you figure them out? So, we launched this campaign called Moments that Matter. You can go to and you're gonna see headshots of individuals, whether they're in a plant, they're working in a restaurant, LSU cheerleader, my sister was... I mean, all these people are on there and their stories aren't just, "Oh, I followed an OSHA protocol, and it saved me." No, tell us something you learned at your house.


0:14:30.3 LB: Yeah.


0:14:32.3 CS: Share anything you want that made a difference for you, your family, or somebody you love. And we're gaining a lot of traction with it, it was kind of right before COVID and then COVID hit, and everything slowed down. So, it was a good time to just start getting stories from people. So, we welcome anybody to, if you go to that link, you can reach out and any testimony you want, kinda like we're candid right now, anything you wanna talk about, and you get a free tumbler too. We'll send you a 20-ounce tumbler.


0:15:03.6 LB: Oh, my God. Well, I'm signing up right now, for sure. I have a lot of moments I can share.


0:15:09.2 CS: There you go.


0:15:10.0 LB: But, no I think that's also why we connected too, cause I know when we talked, there were some adjacencies. And even what we do with this podcast, I joke with my dad who listens, and hey dad, but since we're on the topic of dads, but I joke that, I wanna be the Seth Rogen of safety podcast.




0:15:33.1 CS: Okay.


0:15:33.3 LB: But I like it because we too get to connect with individuals like yourself, and get everyone's stories. And a lot of what everyone talks about is very similar. You talked about helping people and the importance of reaching out and networking. And that's all similar themes that we continue to hear about. So, I'm just... I'm very thankful to be talking to you today.


0:15:57.8 CS: I appreciate you reaching out. I think we've met through Blake Granier with Extreme Safety Professionals.


0:16:04.4 LB: Yes.


0:16:04.7 CS: So, I'm a huge believer everything happens for a reason, and I've met you, and been easy to talk to. So yeah, I'm very excited to be here.


0:16:11.7 LB: Watch out, Seth Rogen, 'cause I'm coming for you.


0:16:14.8 CS: Here she comes.


0:16:15.5 LB: Well, before we talk a little bit more about purpose, I want you to tell us about some future projects that you may be working on, whether they're professional, which I know we talked about the Moments that Matter, but maybe something personal that you're working on or anything that's going on in your life right now.


0:16:32.6 CS: Oh, well, personal side, we're remodeling our house right now, so.


0:16:36.6 LB: Oh, that's always fun.


0:16:37.2 CS: Everybody wants to buy a house. We're gonna be listing it soon. But yeah, so that's kind of an ongoing thing. And just juggling the family stuff with business stuff, but tying it all together, making time, but... So, on the business side of things, if you don't mind, I'll touch on the diversification that we've kind of sprawling into over the past few months and COVID, another thing, opened our eyes, everything happens for a reason. So, I guess it was this past November 2020, COVID was kind of slacking off a little bit and just trying to figure out different places we can do quality safety training, and I met Mr. Bruce Waguespack over here at River Parishes Community College.


0:17:18.9 LB: Shout-out.


0:17:19.9 CS: Shout-out to Gonzales, Louisiana. Hopefully, he gets on a podcast for you soon. But so, we're here. And we started doing training here through NCCR with CSST, Construction Site Safety Technician, and we've been doing a lot of students since the beginning of February. I don't know the exact numbers, but we're putting 'em through that. Well then that kind of morphed into... Then we got Delgado Community College calling, Nunez Community College, Northshore Technical College. So, we're like, "Okay, well, why are these colleges [inaudible]?" Because this is the workforce development side of these state-owned colleges. There's not enough craft workers out there anymore.


0:18:01.0 LB: Yes, definitely.


0:18:01.7 CS: Welders and it's just things like that, that... We can give them the safety certifications and that knowledge and education. Even if you're just gonna be a welder, it doesn't matter, you still want that training because you're... Every person out there is a safety guy.


0:18:19.3 LB: It's definitely time to revamp the trades too.


0:18:22.6 CS: Yes. 100% And that's... Look, they're about to build a miniature plant out behind this college that's gonna be completely operating. They've got monitors, operator rooms and everything. And it's just completing the whole circle, somehow it's a turnkey guy, you're putting into the plant.


0:18:41.0 LB: Yeah.


0:18:41.0 CS: He's got the safety certifications, the knowledge, the coaching, and then they got us on the background, we're always here 24/7 for any one of our students.


0:18:48.8 LB: Oh, that's so awesome. And just the idea that you're already giving back to the future workforce. I can see how much that means to you and your mission, and it's just kind of a great idea. It gives me the warm and fuzzies if I'm being honest.


0:19:05.2 CS: I can tell you, look, we are so busy right now at the office, but not a single person on our staff is cursing me. They're excited about what we're doing, that we're getting it out there. And the other beautiful thing about the CSST and some of the other trainings we're doing, it's no cost to the student, $50 registration because Louisiana has stepped in and granted funds through the Reboot Program, and they're about to redo some for of the remainder of the year, and then going forward. So, it's just... Look, we all paid for it in one way or another with taxes, but it's going back into the community.


0:19:42.0 LB: Yes, and just... For anyone who's listening, I know they cannot see the facility that we're in, but it's pretty cool. I was saying earlier that training in school has come a really long way. And I've talked to safety guys who have started in the '70s, and to just see I feel like I'm in a plant right now, and just the level of training that they can get is really incredible. It makes me excited about what the future might hold.


0:20:17.4 CS: Yeah, I think people are opening their eyes to, "Not everybody needs a four-year bachelor's degree or a masters," and that's no offense to them, everybody's different. Like we're learning with safety and what we're talking about now, everybody's different, you don't have to go... And I love the fact that some of these high schools, my son goes to Mandeville High. Shout-out to the Skippers.


0:20:37.0 LB: Shout-out. [laughter]


0:20:37.9 CS: And, you know, I didn't know about him going into his freshman year, he's gonna be a junior now, but we had the parents come in there. And, you know, have the TOPS route?


0:20:47.3 LB: Yeah.


0:20:47.9 CS: Well, in school... So, you gotta have so many credit hours. Well, now they're dividing it and they actually have a technical route. You don't have to go get your, all your Englishes and all this other stuff, you... Look, I just wanna be a... I wanna weld, that's my passion. So, they're preparing them in high school now, which is... Yeah, it's wow... That's awesome.


0:21:04.2 LB: Tops has come a long way. I mean, I'm not gonna date myself, but I did not have those options as the TOPS person, which is why I went to school out of state. So, it's good to, too, keep our students in our state and in our industry.


0:21:18.8 CS: And give them a lot of other options besides a biology degree.


0:21:21.7 LB: Yes. Who loves science? I mean, it's kind of fun. If you love science, I apologize.


0:21:28.7 CS: You've ruffled some feathers out there.


0:21:30.2 LB: Oh, oh, I'm... No, I do. I do love innovation. I could tell you that.


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0:24:14.0 LB: Welcome back, everyone. I am here with Cody Schwing, and we are having a fantastic conversation on safety and purpose. Now, we're gonna start going really personal. Like purpose is a pretty... It could be a pretty broad brush, so I thought I would have fun with kind of some of the questions for the second half of the show, but why are we here? Why are you here? What's... You know, let's get philosophical.


0:24:43.2 CS: Look, like we did earlier, and I started getting a little emotional about it, but it just... Yeah, my why is, and I'll touch on that. But everybody needs to figure out your why, everybody has got something, somebody relying on them, whether it be at home, whether it be hundreds of miles away, somebody is relying on you for your love, your paycheck, so there's a lot of whys, 'cause it makes you wanna go home and throw your football with your son, or go to your dance recitals for your daughter, or you know, just you and your wife like to travel or something... She can't travel... So, it's just those things. And at a young age, I didn't know what I was doing, I didn't know what I wanted to go with... You know, I wanna be a MLB baseball player. That ain't gonna happen...


0:25:38.9 LB: Well, I don't know, you know, there's still time, you never know where... [laughter]




0:25:42.1 CS: There's a couple 34year olds in there. I tell my son that all the time. I was like, "Wait, how old is he?", "Oh he's 38", I'm like "You telling me I still got a shot"


0:25:49.6 LB: Yeah, so you're saying there's a chance...


0:25:51.6 CS: "Not the way you've been throwing dad." But so, yeah, so my son and my wife, I just got married this past December...


0:26:00.1 LB: Congratulations.


0:26:00.6 CS: And... You know, we're growing a family and before all that, yes I was 17 and didn't really have that direction, not that I was going in the wrong direction, I had a very loving, supporting family, but... Just that happening to me, junior year of high school just kinda evolved my process of thinking and priorities.


0:26:26.1 LB: Yes.


0:26:26.6 CS: I thought I was gonna go to college and just party, nothing holding me back, just doing this. And don't get me wrong, I still drank some beer in high school...


0:26:34.6 LB: Right, yeah.


0:26:36.6 CS: Not high school, I meant to say college. I was not drinking in high school.


0:26:40.4 LB: Yeah. No one drinks in high school.


0:26:41.4 CS: Mom, I was not drinking in high school.


0:26:43.4 LB: Yes, it's the worst thing ever. No.




0:26:46.9 CS: So yeah, once that happened... People ask me all the time, "How'd you do it?" You go have your own offspring brought into this world, he didn't ask to get born to me, a broke, 17year old. He'll tell you I can make some mean ramen noodles from the [laughter]..


0:27:08.4 LB: Hey look, that's a skill to have...


0:27:11.6 CS: That's it. That's it. As he grew up, I finished nursing school when he was probably 4years old, went work offshore, I was working 14 and 14 and I was missing his first tee ball game.


0:27:27.4 LB: Yeah...


0:27:28.1 CS: Things like that and... I'm not saying I didn't love being offshore, but I didn't love it. Fourteen to Fourteen is tough, you're away for those 14 days, but you get to come home, you get 14 days straight with them, but you're still missing half of what I feel, you know, and... Lots of reflection, and when you're offshore on a platform, you have a lotta time to think.


0:27:52.1 LB: Yes, those quiet moments.


0:27:54.4 CS: Exactly, and you got people from all different lifestyles that do different things, but I learned that they all had something back on dry land they were there for.


0:28:07.1 LB: Yes. It sounds like knowing what your purpose is, I think essentially comes to like why you get up in the morning. What do you love? What is that love? Whether it's in your child. I have tons of nieces and nephews. And maybe it's not even in people. I love art. It's whatever that love is, and I can see the love for your family, I mean, god, you did like a whole business on it. But how do you think that people could go about finding their purpose, whether it's professionally or personally? I know we kinda joked about journaling, but maybe sometimes a networking event could help you. If you know you're sort of interested in something, what kind of advice would you give for people who are trying to find their purpose?


0:29:00.1 CS: I think... Before you gonna figure out business wise, you've got to discover that personal why. Because if you're not, in my opinion, there's a lotta successful people out there that, no, they might not agree with me, but I firmly believe if you, you know, self-reflection, if you still tryna figure yourself out, go into networking events, don't just go crawl in a ball and feeling sorry for yourself, get out there and explore the world, do different things, try different things, try different jobs until you find something that really catches and really, you get up in the morning, "Yes, let's go get a cup of coffee and I'm getting to the office." I don't know if many people still say that, but... [laughter]


0:29:42.9 LB: Oh, of course, I just now said that this morning, "Let's get to the office right now."




0:29:48.2 CS: I love fishing, I probably rather be on the boat 7 days a week, but that doesn't pay bills. It does for some people, it'd a great living, but... I think it's just self-reflection, learning yourself, my family will probably say this... I always wanted to be around people.


0:30:06.4 LB: Yeah...


0:30:07.4 CS: But that's a great thing, and it wasn't until I was probably 19, 20, 21years old where my son was getting older and there was more alone time, and I wasn't surrounding myself with people all the time, and so I was able to just be content and just do my own thinking, rather than having other people persuade me, influence me.


0:30:31.4 LB: Influence you, yeah... Like sometimes just being. I don't wanna like say it's natural around here or anything, I don't wanna like give that vibe off, but I will say those moments are important because it allows you to discover if you need to go outside the box. And I think a lotta times, when you're looking for your purpose, it's like, I feel it needs to be this step-by-step program, I feel like it needs to be like this way to do things, but I might need to go outside the box, I might need to get outside of nursing or whatever and you discover that through those moments...


0:31:10.9 CS: Yeah, moments that matter. [laughter]


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0:31:12.2 LB: High five on that. We're hot. Because any time it can come full circle, I'm like, "This podcast episode's gonna be fantastic."


0:31:25.9 CS: You nailed it. That's moments that matter.


0:31:27.4 LB: I love that. Well, thank you so much for being on our show and talking to us about safety and purpose. Now, I did tell you, when we talked before, that every episode kinda ends with a fun thing. Right?


0:31:43.1 CS: Okay.


0:31:43.1 LB: Because I call it a fun thing, a palette cleanser, whatever, that kinda ties into the show. And what I wanted to do for the fun thing today, is I found a lot of philosophy quotes. I was like, "Okay, so we're gonna be talking about moments that matter. Let me look up these philosophy quotes." And sometimes these philosophers are a little... What's the word I'm looking... Esoteric. They're kind of like these... What is Aristotle trying to say? What does this mean?


0:32:16.2 CS: What kind of drug is he on?


0:32:18.9 LB: Yeah, exactly. So, I found some kind of fun, maybe kind of quirky quotes from a gamut of philosophers, and I'm just gonna read them, and then I want you to break it down for us. So, I'm calling... I'm calling this "philosophical quote breakdown". Look, whatever you say is right. I just want you to know, this is supposed to be fun, and if you wanna say it means, "Don't worry, be happy," I'm totally fine with that.




0:32:46.5 LB: Some of these quotes were actually kinda cool, so...


0:32:48.5 CS: Okay.


0:32:49.8 LB: Alright, this is from Karl Marx who says, "Philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world in various ways; the point, however, is to change it." What do you think he was trying to tell us?


0:33:06.7 CS: Okay. Read that one again to me. I'm sorry.


0:33:13.5 LB: Okay. [chuckle]


0:33:13.6 CS: I was trying to wrap my head around it while you were saying it.


0:33:16.5 LB: Yeah, okay. You see? That's exactly why this is fun because what are these... We recognize these people as being smart, and I'm like, "What are you trying to say, Karl Marx?" Philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world in various ways; the point, however, is to change it.


0:33:37.7 CS: Okay, so my take on that kinda go to the end of it, and what are we changing here? Philosophers can come up with some pretty catchy, nobody knows, vagueness, but I think his approach here is to get... Like I'm doing right now, I'm trying to think outside the box.


0:33:58.0 LB: Yes.


0:33:58.8 CS: Let's change the world, you can... Philosophers, you can interpret what they're saying however you want, and like you said earlier, it's not wrong. That's my thoughts. Nobody can call Karl Marx a liar. He don't... That's his thought.


0:34:11.1 LB: Yeah, exactly. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he meant. [chuckle]


0:34:16.7 CS: It's Friday. It took me a little while to come up with that. My brain is shutting off.


0:34:20.7 LB: You know what? We can do a couple of these.


0:34:23.8 CS: No, you're good.


0:34:26.2 LB: Let's see. "The mind is furnished with ideas by experience alone." Now, this is from John Locke. I'm not sure if that's from Lost. There was a character named John Locke, for those who watch that.


0:34:40.6 CS: So, it's a movie quote, movie philosophers.


0:34:42.4 LB: Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty sure it's not him, but "The mind is furnished with ideas by experience alone."


0:34:53.3 CS: That's... Your mind can't work, really, until you have experiences to go off of, I guess. You know? If you're a newborn baby, you don't really have a mind. You got no experience besides the womb.


0:35:05.5 LB: And especially people who kinda like, I'm not... I don't wanna say anything bad about teenagers, but they think they know what's going on, and it's like, "You ain't experienced nothing yet."


0:35:15.5 CS: Oh, I tell my son that all the time, I'm like, "You don't know crap. I'm telling you, you don't."


0:35:20.4 LB: Immanuel Kant says, "Metaphysics is a dark ocean without shores or a lighthouse, strewn with many a philosophic wreck." Well, first of all, that was from his journal, clearly.


0:35:34.3 CS: He might not want anybody to read that one, 'cause... I'm gonna try to take some context clues here and figure out what metaphysics is. So, it's a black hole, sounds like some kind of a... [chuckle]


0:35:51.8 LB: Yes.


0:35:53.3 CS: That... "Strewn with many a philosophic wreck." So, I think it's a black hole of just philosophies that turned into wrecks that either mean something to you or they don't.


0:36:06.2 LB: Yes.


0:36:06.2 CS: So, it's just a graveyard or it's a lighthouse. [inaudible] don't know, there's no lighthouse.


0:36:12.1 LB: We're gonna have to break that one down, but I'll take that one.


0:36:16.1 CS: I'll be thinking about that one over the weekend.


0:36:18.0 LB: You know what I think it was? I think Immanuel Kant had a little too much absinthe that night, and then he was writing that one. It says, "The man is wisest, who, like Socrates, realizes that his wisdom is worthless." It kind of sounds straightforward, but what would you think about on that one? I don't know if I agree that wisdom is worthless. What do these guys know about anything?


0:36:47.3 CS: "The man that is wisest who realizes, like Socrates, that his wisdom is worthless." Humbleness, you know. Is it?


0:36:58.6 LB: Okay.


0:37:00.4 CS: Maybe he's going with, you don't know everything. Look, you think you got wisdom, but you talking to the wrong person, maybe?


0:37:07.1 LB: Cody, you... I think you unlocked that one, 'cause that one... I think you're right. There is something, just to really circle back with finding your purpose. There's a humility side of things in realizing that you are constantly a student in life, so... Okay, so Socrates, if you're listening... [chuckle] Well, Cody, I appreciate you for helping us break down all these fancy philosophy quotes, and thank you for being on our show today.


0:37:44.4 CS: Absolutely, I really appreciate it, Lauren. And hopefully, some way, somehow, I've enlightened somebody. Maybe people don't like the way my voice sounds, but... Look, I'm here. We're always here if... Reach out.


0:38:00.0 LB: Yeah. Do you have any social tags you wanna shout-out before we close?


0:38:07.7 CS: You can browse through there. You can find a lot of resources. You can sign up for our weekly toolbox talks for your job sites that go out every Monday morning about 8:00 AM, Yeah, check that out. Go to our Facebook page and our LinkedIn pages to like it, and you'll hear about any new trainings that we're working with through the state to save you some money. Save you employer's money.


0:38:36.7 LB: Let's do it. Alright, you can go to to find your purpose. Maybe, maybe not.


0:38:41.7 CS: Maybe so. Go to and go read them, please.


0:38:43.9 LB: Yes.


0:38:44.3 CS: Because it's not just about walking in the gates of a plant. Go read these and get some ideas and reach out to us. We'd love to get a head shot of you and feature you. So that'd be great.


0:38:55.3 LB: Alright, let's do it.


0:38:58.6 LB: Special thanks to Cody Schwing, owner and founder at Absolute Safety for being on our show today to talk about Safety and Purpose. If you enjoyed listening to the Safety And... Podcast today, be sure to like, review, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Also, if you're interested in being a guest on our show, please email, that's marketing at Since this is a safety podcast, we should probably mention this disclaimer. The Safety And... Podcast is recorded and made available by LAPCO Manufacturing and is solely for informational and entertainment purposes. The statements, comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast should not be considered by any listener as professional provision and/or direct a specific course of action. The statements comments, views, and opinions expressed here, including by speakers who are not employees or agents of LAPCO, are not necessarily those of LAPCO and may not be current. This podcast may not be reproduced, redistributed, published, copied, or duplicated in any form by any means without prior consent from LAPCO Manufacturing, Inc.


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