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Episode 19 | Safety And... Women in Trades with Maria Moreno by LAPCO FR

Safety And... Women in Trades: In this episode, Lauren sits down with Maria Moreno, electrical and instrumentation tech for Fulcrum Bioenergy exploring gender roles in life and on the jobsite, the importance of establishing a strong support system to achieve professional goals, Maria’s vision for her career and women in the trades, and play a gender role health quiz.




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0:00:28.8 Lauren Brizendine: Hello… listeners! Welcome to Safety And, a laughing and learning podcast, where we talk about safety and whatever else is on your mind. And ladies and gentlemen, I am joined today by Maria Moreno, who is an electrical and instrumentation tech for Fulcrum Bioenergy. And today we are talking about safety and women in the trades. Welcome, Maria to our show.


0:00:56.3 Maria Moreno: Thank you.


0:00:57.6 LB: So, I came across your profile on LinkedIn and you said it was your mission to get people more involved in the skilled trades. Can you tell us a little bit more about your passion?


0:01:10.5 MM: Yes, so the whole point and purpose of me trying to get the word out is because there's simply not enough women in the trade, and there's a shortage for skilled trade workers. Just me joining the team and being in a male-dominant industry, there's just not enough women out there. I was the only girl for every single job that I've been at, and it could be intimidating for many people out there that are wanting to start doing something like that, especially being a woman myself. It's just very intimidating and you just don't know what you're getting yourself into, you look around and you're like, "Oh my gosh, I'm the only girl," but really, there's something about it that you shouldn't be afraid to jump in and there's just not enough women or people getting in the industry.


0:02:13.0 LB: So how did you make the choice to get in the industry, specifically? Tell us about your journey that led you into the trades that you're in right now.


0:02:21.5 MM: I was a stay-at-home mom for a couple of years, and then...


0:02:27.4 LB: That's not an easy job.


0:02:31.4 MM: No.


0:02:31.5 LB: Yes.


0:02:31.6 MM: Honestly, it's more work than actually getting a job, but I was a stay-at-home mom for a couple of years, and I was waitressing, and I was just job-hopping constantly. And I really didn't know what my passion was. And then I'd look at my brothers, they did a program for... You know, in Great Basin College, and I was just joking around with them like, "Hey, what if I was an electrician?" They were like, "You be an electrician? Like, "No, you're gonna get shocked and you're gonna quit the first day that you join." And honestly, it wasn't even about proving them wrong, but looking at their financial stability and what they were getting paid, I was like, "You know what? I think I'm gonna do it."


0:03:15.8 LB: Yeah, why not?


0:03:19.9 MM: Yeah, exactly, why not. And my now husband, he was the one that was really pushing me and really just supporting me behind the whole idea of being an electrician because I was just like, "I really wanna do it, but I'm kinda scared, I don't know."


0:03:38.3 LB: Yes.


0:03:39.7 MM: And he's also an electrician, and he's like, "Just do it, get in there and just full force, just go in there and don't even look back."


0:03:49.1 LB: Yes, why not? 


0:03:52.5 MM: Yeah, exactly. And you know what? I went into the instructor's classroom, and it was a week before school started, and I just remember... His name is Mike Elbert, and he is awesome, he's amazing, 'cause right when I walked in and I'm like, "I'm so sorry, I know you're gonna start your program and I am a little late, but I really wanna join the program and your deadline's up." And he's like, "You know what? I will change that. Just go ahead and show up on Monday," and I did, I showed up and I was so behind, I didn't have any books or anything. And he was just lending me some of the books just temporarily, and it was just awesome having that type of support only because he was like, "I really admire your motivation and your self-confidence to just get in there and do it." But I mean, that was just like that opened so many doors for me at that point. I'm like, "Wow, this is it. I'm already in here. It's too late to go back, I have already paid for half of it," and that's just a little bit of my journey and... Right nine months down the road, a month before I was supposed to graduate, I already had a job offer, and I'm just so beyond grateful that someone was willing to give me, that opportunity and that chance to prove myself and it just...


0:05:21.9 MM: Right then and there it was like after I got that job another door opened, then another door opened, people were reaching out and were like, "Hey, you should come work for us," or "You should come work for this place," and it was just amazing. At that point, I was financially stable, finally. I was able to provide for my kids and for my fiancé too. He, honestly, he can provide for himself, but I was just happy enough to help and contribute and put a roof over our heads as well, and not have to rely on anyone and borrow money like I used to.


0:05:57.8 LB: Yes, and I'm sure you made your brothers very proud, right? You...


0:06:02.6 MM: Oh man! 


0:06:02.6 LB: The fact that if they could do it, it's like, you went out and you're like I can do this too, right? 


0:06:07.7 MM: Exactly, and I make more money than them now. So, it's like... [chuckle]


0:06:15.6 LB: I love it. I love that.


0:06:15.7 MM: It's awesome.


0:06:15.8 LB: You mentioned the word intimidating a few times. You kept saying, "It was so intimidating, it was so intimidating."


0:06:22.7 MM: Yes.


0:06:22.8 LB: But tell me a little bit more about some of those challenges and just some of that intimidation. Because truth be told, I actually had an opportunity to be the only woman on a job site for a project, and intimidating is a very good word.


0:06:38.7 MM: Yep, yes.


0:06:38.8 LB: You can kind of feel the eyes on you a little bit, like what's going on? 


0:06:48.0 MM: Yes.


0:06:48.0 LB: And so, I want you to tell us a little bit more about some of those challenges and what that's like for you.


0:06:53.8 MM: So, intimidating can be a very strong word and it is, and it's very real when you're the only woman on the job site.


0:07:02.7 LB: Yes.


0:07:02.8 MM: Because you look around and there's... Everyone's a man on the job site and they're picking up heavy valves or they're pulling cable. I'm this little 115-pound girl, and I'm just new to the field. And they have a lot more experience. Because believe it or not in the old times, the fathers would teach their sons to do electrical work or mechanical work. And me, I didn't grow up on that. My mom was teaching me how to cook in the kitchen and clean the house and take care of the younger kids, and I didn't have any prior experience. So that in itself is intimidating 'cause they already had a little bit of prior knowledge. And honestly, it took a lot for me to break out of my shell only because you're the only girl, and like I said, no prior knowledge, and you have to ask for help a lot.


0:08:04.9 LB: Yes.


0:08:06.0 MM: And sometimes you may not feel comfortable asking for help because you're trying to prove your point, you're trying to prove that "Oh yeah, I'm a girl, but I can do the job." But honestly, everyone needs help and those... The men that I was working around were just so awesome. They were so supportive that when I went to them, I looked at them as like they were all my brothers, you know? 


0:08:27.0 LB: Yes.


0:08:27.7 MM: They would help me out, they would help me with picking up valves or wire things up that I had no knowledge about. But just like that, that in itself is intimidating.


0:08:37.7 LB: Well, I know at least for me personally, you want to see people win. You know what I mean? 


0:08:44.7 MM: Yeah.


0:08:44.9 LB: So, it's like when you see someone, especially taking a role like this, which is a little unconventional. Like you said, you were being taught a totally different way of life.


0:08:58.2 MM: Yep.


0:08:58.8 LB: That, at least for me, I wanna see that succeed even more than anything, anything you can do to help to make that story successful.


0:09:09.1 MM: Exactly.


0:09:09.2 LB: And I'm glad you had that experience. 'Cause I know that on the flip side there are some other experiences that maybe people aren't as supportive.


0:09:18.9 MM: Yep.


0:09:18.9 LB: And for you to just have that kind of support and cheering squad is really kind of cool.


0:09:26.4 MM: Yeah. Exactly.


0:09:27.1 LB: Are there any other women that you work with or were you the only woman on the job site? 


0:09:31.1 MM: I was always the only woman on the job site. Constantly, every job, at every job the past five years. And it's amazing 'cause I hear people on... Well, I see people commenting on my post on LinkedIn all the time, like, "You're not the only girl, you're not the only girl," but I am here. This is real life for me because every job site that I've been on I've been the only woman there. And it is a little bit... It's sad because I really want women to break out of their shell and try something new and change. They just don't know where to go or who to guide them.


0:10:11.3 LB: Well, that's why I'm glad you're here talking about that. Because we need that voice to tell people, yes, it's a hard journey, but look at what it looks like on the other side. Just you talking about you achieving your goals, which is what it's all about.


0:10:30.4 MM: Yep, exactly.


0:10:31.7 LB: So, I wanna ask you a little bit more about something you might wish you would have known before starting this journey. I feel like there's probably so many things, right? 




0:10:46.4 LB: I mean, if you could always go back. But what are a few things that maybe you've learned, or you wish you would have learned before you got started in this industry? 


0:10:53.1 MM: I wish I would have known that there were programs out there way beyond, even in school, because not knowing that there's programs out there or there's financial aid... It's just so helpful to know that there's people out there to help you, and then there's the support system. I can't stress that enough. I had no idea that my whole program could be paid for by... Who helped me was I joined Job Opportunities in Nevada []. They paid for all of my school, and I will forever be grateful for them. But I had no idea that even existed. And the only reason that I knew that was because when I went into the program the teacher handed out little cards. And was like, "Hey, if you guys need any help financially paying for school, go here to join and they will actually help you out." I went in and they were like, "Yeah, you qualify. You're able to get help, you're low income." Like I said, I was waitressing and at the time I would have been laid off. Gave me this money and all these tools, and they supported me a hundred percent. But just knowing that there's a support system out there other than your family or friends was very helpful.


0:12:19.1 LB: Well, I know you mentioned education earlier as well. But what are maybe some other challenges that you faced in addition to having to seek out the financial support or just not knowing what's out there? What are some other things you've come across? 


0:12:40.6 MM: Honestly, my challenges were just being a woman in general, having to prove yourself to all the men in the trades, and being in an industrial field and you're getting dirty and stuff, that was a challenge for me. And also stepping out of my comfort zone because I'm so used to staying home with my kids and doing the lighter duty stuff. And that was one of my challenges and honestly seeking out help too, because you're a girl and you're like, "Hey, my mom wants me to be in nursing, but I really wanna find out what this is all about," mechanical side or being an electrical engineer, that could be challenging too, but that's what I've run into.


0:13:30.0 LB: Or how it feels to fix something, right? 


0:13:33.0 MM: Yes.


0:13:33.7 LB: I know for me, sometimes even just when I pull out my toolbox, I feel way cooler just that I like... You know what I mean? That, "Oh, I can fix something, I don't need help," but then like you said, two seconds later I find myself having to, "Wait, which way does it go again?" So, I get that for sure.


0:13:53.0 MM: Yes.


0:13:54.1 LB: But I wanna talk a little bit more. I know you keep talking about your journey, but what do you think it might take for someone who's listening, what does it take in your opinion to be a woman in the trades? I mean, obviously, courage. When I hear your story, it truly to me sounds like a story of courage, but what else do you think that you need to deal with this stuff? 


0:14:22.6 MM: The biggest thing for me is having the right support system. Without that, you are not gonna move, you're not gonna go anywhere. I really took a step back and was like, "Who do I need to go to?" And honestly, I didn't have to look around very far because all of my family and friends are very supportive. Also, networking on my LinkedIn, they were very supportive like, "Hey, if you wanna further your education, we're all here for you. You can do it." And for those that don't have a support system, go to an advisor because they will definitely always help you and be there for you and guide you in the right direction. A lot of people don't have family or friends, or they don't have the finances to do something, but going to someone that's a free advisor at a local college or something, they're always very helpful and will guide you in the right direction.


0:15:26.1 LB: Well, and you also mentioned networking too, and I think networking is very important too if, like you said, if you're living in a place where you might not have the access to your family and friends as if you were closer, there's tons of just networking groups that are always really helpful as well.


0:15:47.0 MM: With networking, I started my LinkedIn five years ago, and I've built so much on my LinkedIn. The platform has gotten so big now that I have just so many supporters and fans on there, and I see many... I see more women on that platform now using it, and I'm always more than willing to share their story and help them out with whatever I can with my own personal journey.


0:16:19.6 LB: Yes.


0:16:20.2 MM: And I think that's very helpful.


0:16:21.9 LB: Well, and again, that's how I kinda came across you was another girl I work with was like, "You gotta start following this girl. She's so positive. She does... " 'Cause we do PPE, and we do PPE for women in electrical and oil and gas. So, she was like, "You have to just watch her. She's just so positive and she's a young mother." She came up and I was like, "Oh yeah, we gotta sit down and talk to her." So, I am super thankful that you're just here sharing your story. And I wanna talk a little bit about maybe some of the personal and professional projects that you might be working on. I know, obviously, you're a mother, so that I feel like is a personal thing that you're always... That's always a part of your life. But what are some projects that you have going on? 


0:17:13.8 MM: So, my projects right now, I am heavily into an... I'm heavy in investing, so I do Airbnbs. Me and my fiancé on several houses, and we do rent them out and do Airbnb. So, I mean that right there, I could have never done that without the financial support of my own trade, me getting paid. I'm like, "Well, I need to do something with all this money."


0:17:43.9 LB: Yeah, girl, thrive.


0:17:44.5 MM: Exactly, so I do my Airbnb. I'm working on a patent right now too. I love inventing little things and seeing what we can do with it, and I just... I'm very motivated, I like being successful. I'm like, one day I wanna be... I don't wanna be a millionaire, but I wanna be known for something and change and be an influencer, but yeah.


0:18:12.0 LB: Who are some of your inspirations? 


0:18:15.5 MM: My inspiration right now is the creator from Spanx.


0:18:22.2 LB: Yes.


0:18:23.0 MM: She's so big and she's so inspirational, and I always watch her stuff and I'm like, "Wow." She invented something that people were just brushing her off for. And I think it's definitely motivating to see someone keep trying no matter how hard you fall or how many times you get knocked down, you just keep trying and you'll get somewhere, you're gonna succeed, but she's definitely one of my favorite influencers.


0:18:52.0 LB: And that's part of the process too, right? I think what makes it worthwhile in the end is all the times that you had to pick up yourself and all the times you have to fail forward and to finally succeed. It's totally worth it for sure.


0:19:09.2 MM: Exactly, yup.


0:19:11.7 LB: Well, I'm gonna end with one more question and then we'll move into the second half and talk a little bit more about specifically women in the trades. But what profession, other than your own, do you think you might have wanted to be if you could go back and do something different? Would you maybe wanna be a woman in a different industry, or would you... Or you think you wanna... You're really questioning that nursing thing, or are you just like, "Nope, this is where I'm supposed to be?"


0:19:45.7 MM: Honestly, at first, I wanted to be, believe it or not, when I was younger I wanted to be a lawyer. Obviously, everyone wants to do something when they're young. And I kinda grew out of that and wanted to get into nursing. And coming out of college and being a young mother, I was pregnant at 17, and I really couldn't afford college at the moment and couldn't pursue my dreams like I wanted to. But right... I ran into my friend at the grocery store, and she was a nurse. And she was just telling me, "Maria, you could do so much better. You have so much potential. You don't wanna be a nurse." And I'm not talking bad on any nurse out there. You do you, girl. That's your dream. But she was telling me how hard it is and how it just... It doesn't work with her schedule with kids. You have to work nights, you have to work crazy hours, and you have to deal with a lot of people on a daily basis. And me, I'm more like... I'm independent. I don't wanna entertain a lot of people. Maybe I'm not an entertainer. I am on LinkedIn for sure, but... [chuckle]


0:21:02.6 LB: Right. But I think it's different, right? Just having to be a... Just constant beck and call is very different than putting a post here and there where you're caring for people. That's a tough responsibility for sure.


0:21:21.4 MM: Exactly. Yes. And I have four kids, so I couldn't imagine myself having to be on call and having to leave them constantly. My schedule now allows me to hang out with my children, to make those soccer practices or make time for them. And luckily, I'm not gonna have anymore, thank God. But they're a lot of work, but they're my life, and I don't think I could do something more demanding than this job.


0:21:52.0 LB: Well, I love it.


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0:23:07.7 LB: Welcome back, everyone. I'm here talking about safety and women in the trades with Maria Moreno. And we are just having such a positive discussion. This just is like... Again, I get your story, and to me, it's a story about courage and talking about being sometimes the only women, or the only woman in your profession. I do wanna talk a little bit more about that. And I'd like to get your opinion on why you think there has been a lack of women in the trades to date. Because they are growing, which is good, but why do you think it's been maybe not as talked about in the past as it is now? 


0:23:52.9 MM: So, for me, it is mainly because of old times. It's, of course, a male-dominant industry. And women feel like, "Okay, I need to stay home, I need to be able to watch the kids," or like I said, be a waitress or work as an accountant. But they don't have the support system and motivation to maybe change. And I know the biggest thing for me was that I'm so small, and I'm short, and I feel like... There's an image to being an electrician or a mechanic. What do you think of when you think of electrician or mechanic? You think of a masculine man, really just tall, very strong. And that intimidated me. And maybe just not having the information. Someone's not gonna walk up to me and say, "Hey, here's a manual to being an electrician." They're gonna hand that to a male, because they're gonna be like, "Hey, this is where the money's at, man." But for me, they're not gonna hand that to me. You gotta kinda just search on your own and do some... You're gonna have to be willing to learn and take risks.


0:25:21.6 LB: Yeah. Well, I like that you mentioned that... The risk aspect of this too, because it's... Obviously, hearing your story, it's not an easy path once you do make that decision. And I think that too could be why there's a lack of... I don't wanna say it's easier for me maybe to have a child and raise them, 'cause God knows that's not easy, but I'm just saying it seems like, "Oh well, that's easier than having to go to school, having to learn all this stuff," like you said. And it just... Maybe that's why it's not as appealing. But there's people like you out there talking about it, so I'm glad that it's growing. And I do wanna talk a little bit about your personal dream and your personal vision for women in the trades, like what would be ideal for you? Can I just say, ideally for me would be just so people can say the word like woman or lady and not be embarrassed about it, right? Because...


0:26:27.1 MM: Yes! 


0:26:28.7 LB: In my experience, they're like, "Excuse me, ma'am." It's like people are kind of nervous to approach you or they're like, "Oh, there's the... The ladies room," and you're like, "Hey guys, it's okay. We can say girl and woman now." If we could just get there, I would be happy, but...


0:26:47.5 MM: Yes.


0:26:47.6 LB: I'm sure you have a different vision, but tell us a little bit more about that.


0:26:53.7 MM: No... On that topic, I love that you said that because I couldn't agree more. And you know, there was a time where I'd walk in and they're like, "Hey guys, we need to put a "Ladies" sign on the restroom now," and I'm like, "Guys, no, chill out... " [chuckle]


0:27:09.9 LB: It's okay.


0:27:10.4 MM: "We can all still have the same restroom, it's fine."


0:27:14.1 LB: Yes.


0:27:16.7 MM: But for me, the biggest thing is I wanna see a female electrical engineer or a female lead, a plant manager that's a female.


0:27:25.6 LB: Yes.


0:27:27.3 MM: That would be awesome because I have yet to see one. There are... All my bosses have been male, all the plant managers have been male, and it's just like that's a bummer for me. And my goal, my personal goal, like I'm gonna self-educate myself and push myself, and maybe one day I'm gonna be that plant manager or that supervisor and just to have the same respect, reciprocate the same respect. And I just feel like we're all human, and...


0:28:02.4 LB: Yes.


0:28:03.5 MM: It's good to be diverse. It looks good on the company, it looks good on your supervisor or whoever it may be, the plant manager, but I'm all for diversity and... Yeah, that's just my personal dream. I want more female leaders out there.


0:28:21.6 LB: Well, I can't wait to like your post when I do see you become the next supervisor. I'm gonna clap or congratulate whatever the emoji is for that, so... But you mentioned diversity, and I do wanna end with a question about... Men and women are obviously different, in so many ways and alike in so many ways. But in your opinion, what can a woman bring to a job or what type of perspective that might be a little different that maybe a woman can offer to a job that maybe... I don't wanna say maybe men can't, but kinda playing along that idea of diversity. I know we know why it's good to have diversity and women on the job site, but what do you think a woman can offer specifically that maybe a job site might need? 


0:29:18.7 MM: Honestly, like I said, we're all human. There's no difference between the two other than I have hair. You know what I mean? Long hair.


0:29:28.8 LB: Yeah, right.


0:29:31.1 MM: But, to me, it's just enlightening and refreshing to see that your partner is a female and that your company is doing such a good deal, like, "Oh yeah, I can rely on her because... " Or maybe more caring aspect like, "Oh, she has kids and she's been through it all." But for me, it's mainly just... It's refreshing to see a female out in the field, and they can look to you and be like, "Hey, this is different, it's different culture," and there really is no difference.


0:30:11.7 LB: Yeah.


0:30:12.9 MM: I just feel like it's enlightening and refreshing to see something different... Changing culture is good.


0:30:18.2 LB: Well, I just liked earlier when you painted the picture of someone might automatically just hand a manual to a guy. But I just wanna get to a place where it can... I don't know, like you said, there would just be more women in there who can do that job as well, to where...


0:30:35.5 MM: Yes.


0:30:36.0 LB: It's not as surprising.


0:30:38.7 MM: Yes. Exactly. I would love for that to be the norm. We gotta normalize having a female there. I get my nails done a lot in at work. They're so used to it now. They're like, "Hey, what color are your nails today, Maria?" It's just nice because they're like my brothers now.


0:31:00.7 LB: Yes! 


0:31:00.8 MM: And they're so used to me being there. And at first they were like, "Oh my gosh, this is... " 'Cause at my old job, I was actually the only E&I there. They're like, "Oh my gosh, there's that girl, she's a E&I. She's the only one here that's doing that job, it's gonna be tough for her." But then I come in, fully educated, I know my stuff, and they're like...


0:31:21.0 LB: Yes.


0:31:21.8 MM: "Wow, she has her degree? Oh my God, she can program?" That was just awesome. Now, they ask me questions and they know...


0:31:31.9 LB: Yes.


0:31:32.5 MM: I have the answers, and I mean, we just joke around about that stuff too, because they're just like... That's what you gotta get used to too, because in that environment, you gotta get used to the joking. It's a...


0:31:46.4 LB: Yes.


0:31:46.5 MM: You know how everyone likes to joke around at work, but it's just comforting like, "Oh my gosh, you got your nails done. Did you get them done in pink or black this time?" But it's just... It's awesome to just have that sense of feeling like that you're safe and you... Everyone's...


0:32:03.1 LB: Yes.


0:32:04.4 MM: Gonna have your back.


0:32:04.5 LB: And I love that you're so authentically you too, 'cause I will say that in my experience, there was this kind of moment of like, "Well, maybe I should just try to fit in."


0:32:14.2 MM: Yes.


0:32:15.5 LB: And kinda going back to our question before of like, "What can you offer to be different?" It's like, it occurred to me, I was like, "You know what? I'm gonna wear a little makeup today. I really like bright red lipstick and I'm gonna wear it today."


0:32:26.7 MM: Exactly.


0:32:28.0 LB: And like, "It is who I am. I'm not trying to be anyone different," so I love that we're ending the show with not only do you need to get in the trades, but continue to get your nails painted and be completely yourself, because I think there's also something, and we haven't really touched on it, but you know that choice of whether or not you wanna fit in it because you have to kind of fit in. But then also you've made a choice to stand out, so how do you balance that? And I'm asking you that, that was kind of a bonus question I wasn't even planning for, but how do you balance that? 


0:33:07.6 MM: It's honestly, it's easy for me, it comes natural because I am the type of person where I don't... My feelings can't get hurt. I'm myself, I have to continue to be myself. I don't like changing for anyone, if I was sticking to the script, I would have been a nurse or I would have been still waiting tables, I had to step out of my comfort zone and I was still wearing make-up, I was still curling my hair. I tease the guys, "Hey, you want me to pluck your eyebrows for you?" You know what I mean, but... [chuckle]


0:33:43.7 LB: I love that.


0:33:45.4 MM: Yeah, we tease each other a lot, but I'm not gonna change for anyone, and you shouldn't either, you should still continue to be yourself. If you wanna cut your hair super short, by all means. There was a time where, "Maria, are you gonna continue to have your hair down?" Yeah, of course, I'm a girl, I'm still gonna be girly. "Are you still gonna... "


0:34:13.6 LB: Yeah, I like my hair down.


0:34:13.7 MM: Yeah, exactly, and it's just refreshing to know that people are starting to get used to it, especially in my environment. I was the first female worker at that plant as an E&I, which was amazing to me. I felt honored, but then again, I felt a little bit sad, but now I use that to my advantage to encourage people on my LinkedIn like, "Hey, I did it, you can do I too."


0:34:39.4 LB: Yes. I love that. And before we close, I do want to allow our listeners, if they wanna connect with you, where can you be found? Or if they wanna learn more about women in the trades, if you have any links that you want to shout out to let us know.


0:35:00.7 MM: So, you guys can always reach me on LinkedIn. That is my main platform. I do have Facebook and Instagram as well. So, my new last name is Williams... Maria Williams, obviously, I just got married so...


0:35:16.9 LB: Yes. We talked about that. Congratulations! 


0:35:17.2 MM: Thank you. Yes, so people can find me there. I will be attending a conference in Boise, Idaho in October, so people can also tune into that. So, they could follow RCN, and it's Reality Capture Network, if anyone doesn't know what that is. They kind of promote industrial and commercial, just things in automation and just newer technology, I guess you should say. But yeah, those are the main platforms that you guys can reach me on.


0:35:52.0 LB: Alright. Well, thank you so much for being on our show. And I know we talked about kind of how we end our show with kind of just a fun game, palate cleanser that I like to play with my guests, just to keep it light. And I did find this one on WebMD, and it's called, "Men and Women, How Different Are They?" So, I did not make up this quiz, okay? I just want everyone to know. It's a WebMD quiz, and we're just going to see how much you and I know about men and women and how different they are. So maybe we'll learn something and teach people as well. Alright. So, the first question, it says, "Women are often better than men at... " Is it: A, speaking; B, judging character; or C, aerobic exercise? Which... I mean, it could really be... It could be any one of these, guys. It really can be.


0:36:58.7 MM: Oh, shoot! I wanna say speaking, 'cause I think of my fiancé and I'm like, "You know what? I think I'm a little bit better than you." [chuckle]


0:37:07.9 LB: It says, "Yes, you are correct. Women find the right words faster and use a wider variety of words, that doesn't mean men aren't good speakers, just that women have a small advantage."


0:37:21.4 MM: Wow, that's awesome. [chuckle]


0:37:21.5 LB: Way to go women there. Now on the flip, "Men tend to be better than women at... " Is it: A, judging distance; B, Following instructions, or D, doing crossword puzzles? I just wanna know who's better at aerobic exercise, that's all I care about. That's what...


0:37:42.2 MM: I think it's kids, babies, that's for sure.


0:37:45.7 LB: Yes, maybe.


0:37:48.7 MM: I'm gonna have to say, number one.


0:37:55.1 LB: Judging distance, yes. It's part of what's called spatial awareness, and it includes how you gauge size, distance, and speed. I feel like this is kind of natural with what we were talking about earlier, that's probably why we assume that men can do technical manuals better 'cause they have a lot of that kind of stuff in it. Okay. So, this one, this one could rile some feathers. I don't know what the answer is, but it says, "True or false: Generally, women are safer drivers than men." Oh. I don't know.


0:38:30.5 MM: I don't know, I've crashed my car so many times. [chuckle] I don't even know.


0:38:34.9 LB: This one's tough.


0:38:36.3 MM: I think men are better drivers.


0:38:39.4 LB: So, you think it is false? 


0:38:43.9 MM: Yes.


0:38:44.0 LB: Oh, it's actually true.


0:38:47.4 MM: Really? 


0:38:47.5 LB: Yes, girl, men tend to take more risk. They are more likely to speed, drive drunk and go without a seat belt. They also have more severe crashes than women drivers. So hey, guys, if you're driving and listening to the podcast, please follow the speed limit and make sure your seat belts are on. This is as a safety podcast, so be safe out there, guys. Okay, this is an interesting one, we'll do this one and then maybe another one and just kind of wrap it up for some fun. "The brains of men and women are the same, true or false?"


0:39:24.6 MM: False.


0:39:26.5 LB: I hope that's false. I mean, please. Okay, yes. And it says, "While they are a lot alike, there are some differences obviously in structure and chemistry. For example, the part of the brain that triggers fight or flight response is bigger in men, so they tend to respond a bit faster when they think there's a threat. The brain cells of men and women are also connected in different ways." So, you know... Well, I figured like, I didn't need a science degree for that, so.


0:40:01.6 MM: [chuckle] You knew that. Girl.


0:40:01.7 LB: Yeah, we kind of figured this one. Now the last question we have, and remember, y'all, this is a health quiz at its essence, but it says, "Differences between men and women are caused by hormones, genetics or both?"


0:40:22.8 MM: Both.


0:40:22.9 LB: Yeah, I feel like that was... I wish we would have had something a little bit more climactic, but you know, that was the one where they left us. I was more interested about some of this brain stuff, but you know, hey guys, genes cause men to release more testosterone than women. Yeah, this is like pretty much science in seventh grade. This is what your kids are learning in science right now.


0:40:53.9 MM: Yes.


0:40:54.0 LB: So, well, for what it's worth, I learned a little bit and thank you for kinda just playing this palette cleanser of how men and women are different. I was nervous when I was looking for the quiz 'cause I was like, there's so many Men And Women Are Different quizzes, like, let's stick to maybe something kind of... Some of them get kind of crazy, so I appreciate you just having fun with us and taking some time to kinda end the show with us. Yes.


0:41:22.9 MM: Yeah, thank you. I do wanna say that I did try on LAPCO's, your guys' stuff, shirts, and pants, and they're so comfy. Just throwing that out there because our company does buy it from a Gearcor, and it was just amazing, very comfortable.


0:41:42.3 LB: Well, shout out to all those people. And I happened to know the girl who works on the clothes, and I know she would really appreciate you saying that, so... I appreciate that very much, but alright, Maria, thank you so much for being on our show.


0:41:58.8 LB: Special thanks to Maria Moreno, electrical and instrumentation technician, for being on our show today to talk about safety and women in the trades.


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0:43:24.0 LB: This Safety And... Podcast is produced by LAPCO Manufacturing with marketing and media by Lauren Brizendine and Tiffany Giroir. Sound editing by Christopher Hanlon and music by Smoke House Beads.


0:43:38.2 LB: That was easy. Cool.